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COVID-19 can be treated despite what the not at all trustworthy "fact checkers" say. Listen to this experienced doctor. Pierre Kory, M.D., Associate Professor of Medicine at St. Luke's Aurora Medical Center, delivers passionate testimony during the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on "Early Outpatient Treatment: An Essential Part of a COVID-19 Solution, Part II." https://youtu.be/Tq8SXOBy-4w
Thank you@bitcoinsteffen, this is very interesting indeed, authorities should follow up on all the studies mentioned by this doctor, they are numerous and from labs and doctors all over the world... I was curious and did a bit of digging on Ivermectin myself, mostly to check what it was derived from. I was happy to find Ivermectin is derived from a soil bacteria (not a petrochemical) and has been used safely and successfully. I also found out this medicine was reason for William C. Campbell's Nobel Prize in 2015. Very telling that his speech at the ceremony was entitled "Ivermectin: A Reflection on Simplicity", which fits what I've learnt so far. Repurposed medicines are a gift to humanity (not necessarily to those who are after patents at any cost).
bitcoinsteffen replied:
Yes@glauce, I agree. But unfortunately it seems authorities are not at all interested in repurposed medicines. In my country, Denmark, the Danish Medicines Agency is financially rewarded for the work they do in relation to approving new medicines and/or vaccines. If existing medicines can be used to treat COVID-19 then they don't earn extra income. If existing medicines cannot be used to treat COVID-19 then pharmaceutical companies will try to develop new (expensive) medicine and/or vaccines. Such medicines and/or vaccines will earn the Danish Medicines Agency a lot of extra income. The incentives are crazy. The incentives also prevent the authorities from being financially incentivized to recommend things which can prevent diseases. More use of vitamin D, for example, could probably be a huge advantage for (potential) COVID-19 patients, but it will also reduce the need for new (expensive) medicines and/or vaccines which equals higher income for the Danish Medicines Agency. I think there is similar problems in other countries. The regulators are captured and corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry. The Danish Medicines Agency has refused to acknowledge that early treatment with some existing repurposed medicines actually work despite lots of evidence from INDEPENDENT doctors. See for example https://c19study.com/ or https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/. I believe our true rulers WANT a crisis because they want more political centralization and control (and the accompanying higher level of corruption opportunities for themselves), but of course they cannot admit that in public. That would make them complicit in mass murder. See for example https://www.corbettreport.com/greatreset/. "Show me the incentives and I will show you the outcome.” Charlie Munger Here are a couple more documentaries which put light on the massive corruption: https://plandemicseries.com/ https://www.corbettreport.com/gates/
glauce replied:
I agree with you on "incentives" as well@bitcoinsteffen... the kind of incentive being used is putrefying everything and everyone it touches. To add to that, there seems to be more people without a back bone then we could ever have imagined, I think the word authority has lost its meaning completely, as have most terms we used to know. The great majority of people, in any decision making position, seem to lack what it takes to authorise anything, they basically say yes and take payment for their obedience (probably the reason they were chosen)... the few exceptions to the "new" rules, are silenced, have their careers destroyed and their lives turned into a trail of pain... I guess those will be the people who will leave a legacy for the future, whose names will be remembered... those who conform to corruption and still find ways to justify themselves, will come to trial, either by jury or by humanity... there is no escaping it, the tipping point has arrived. This worldwide corruption was exported like a sale of third rate fast food. Doctors have to learn to forgive themselves, as Dr Judy Mikovits says and has done herself, moving out of her submission, reacting and becoming somebody again... even though she was imprisoned (without evidence) and silenced, her voice is being heard loud and clear... no one can stop that, no matter how much they pay to get it done.
glauce replied:
Many thanks for all the links as well... I found the information on the Swiss Policy Research site ( https://swprs.org/on-the-treatment-of-covid-19/ ) to be particularly useful as reference. I think people would be wise to find out which Covid-19 treatments have proven to be effective and under which circumstances... knowing which medicines have been studied, reviewed, tested and used to treat real patients, successfully, could save your life or the life or someone you love.
Very passionate, except that NIH has indeed looked into it already and found that the doses needed are so high as to be dangerous. More clinical trials are needed and indeed some are being carried out.
bitcoinsteffen replied:
Have you got any link / documentation supporting your claim?
sandysmoothie replied:
There’s a great roundup here of many drugs and treatments in consideration, including the one this doc mentions https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-drugs-treatments.html
bitcoinsteffen replied:
The New York Times article is very biased. They treat FDA as some kind of oracle while the reality is that FDA has the same kind of destructive incentives other Medicines Agencies also have. FDA is incentivized to not see a solution with existing medicines. You can see results of actual Ivermectin studies on https://ivmmeta.com/. The picture is very clear. Ivermectin works.
sandysmoothie replied:
Ah yes, the New York Times, the NIH, the FDA, and Department of Health and Human Services are totally biased and destructive and out to screw you, unlike ivmmeta.com which is totally opaque and surely giving us the correct information all the time.
bitcoinsteffen replied:
The methods and data used by https://ivmmeta.com/ are transparent. They list all the 24 studies they have included in their graphs etc. The anti ivermectin crowd are the opaque and misleading. They cherry pick the data points they want to talk about, and they frame it the way only someone with poor incentives would do it. They are not actually diving in to the 24 completed studies involving ivermectin and humans. They are only pumping up fear, uncertainty and doubt.
sandysmoothie replied:
Like these guys, the NYT says there is some effectiveness there, but it needs more study, which is exactly what the doc is the video is saying.
bitcoinsteffen replied:
There is no reason to wait for more studies. Doctors can treat with ivermectin and learn as we go.