Man... the book of Romans is making only fragments of sense to me.
I mean, I kinda get it on a superficial level, but it's still like "WHOOSH" wrt practical application.
In chapters 6 - 8 if anyone wants to discuss?
I guess my question is, if we're dead to sin in Christ... then... why do we need to keep fighting sin and choosing righteousness?
Paul sort of explains the struggle in 7:20...
"Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it."
I've heard gnostics talk about being 51% good (that is, greater than 50% good...) as the goal.
In 8:12-14 he clarifies, "Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation - but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, because those who are led by the Spirit of God are Sons of God."
He must be talking about spiritual Life here. It's interesting to me that religious Christians reject the idea of reincarnation so strongly, looking at 8:19-21
"The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God."
There are many ways to interpret that... as all "spiritual" people hope for some kind of afterlife.
To someone with a spiritual orientation... if there's no afterlife to hope for, then what good is any hope? Fleeting pleasurable moments are just that: love between family and friends strike me as the enduring threads that weave the "glorious freedom" Paul refers to as Christian hope.
Looking at it from the point of reincarnation or rebirth in a spiritual plane, it makes sense.
He says in 8:2, that he's waiting eagerly for "our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies."
So rather than the spiritual life being about being saved and "possessed" by God... it's more that we have a chance of working with the Spirit in order to do a 51% attack on evil in our bodies... so that our bodies (perhaps spiritual bodies bearing spiritual fruit) can be (or already in a sense are) redeemed by God... for more glorious bodies in a more spiritual place than earth as we know it...?